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Paint Shop Prison

My 1967 Mustang Coupe has been through two paint and body shops over the past six months and the results have been disappointing and at times had me feeling like my car was in prison or could be held hostage.

"Read the Top Ten Signs Your Project May End up in Paint Shop Prison"

I went to both body shops with high expectation and enthusiasm; both shops new that I would be publishing the progress of their work and promoting their business so I was pretty confident that they would meet their obligation to return a great finished product and receive the advertising, notoriety and recognition they would earn.

L & H Kustoms (Paint Shop Prison #1)

L & H (Luke Mau) started out good and aggressive with the project being picked up and media blasted within two weeks and then started on replacing the floor pan and doing some minor welding shortly there after.

Mayer65Just a few weeks into the project I received a request from a fellow Mustang Enthusiast (Darrel Mayer) to trade out my time slot so his 1965 Mustang Resto-Mod could be completed in time for SEMA 2008; I agreed with the stipulation that my Mustang would be painted in early October just after Darrel's car came out of paint.

As the October deadline approached, neither mine nor Darrel's car was any where near ready for paint, with 80% of the work remaining to be done. I began to express my MartiReport 001concerns about the progress and the deadline and was told "It doesn't mater what you think about the progress, what matters is that the job gets done"; wrong it does matter I am the customer. At this point I decided that both projects could potentially end up a catastrophe and I was going to pull my project from the shop and began talking with the next potential shop; brought them out to take a look at the project and bid on the job; the car was pulled from L & H the following day.

Paint Shop Prison #2 (All Classic Restoration)

All Classic Restoration (Ron and Jeff Carson) stepped up to the plate next; they too started out aggressively and began work within days and projected a completion date of 4-6 weeks. I knew that 4-6 weeks was a pretty short window for this task and I didn't think they would meet the deadline however, they would put in a concerted effort and would probably have the car just about ready for paint by the end of the duration.

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Same old Story; the completion date came and went, the project wasn't even 50% completed and far from seeing the paint booth. The progress gradually slowed to a near trickle and the next several weeks revolved around getting the paint matched.

There was a pattern emerging between the two shops. Once the deadlines passed I began hearing the whining about how much more work it was than anticipated; and I would agree if more work had been done.. "It's only more work if you actually do the work!"

The whining continued about all of the time and difficulties trying to get the paint matched, as if this was the reason for the lack of real progress. Three attempts were made to get the paint matched, even the use of an $8,000 dollar analyzer; none were successful.

I was beginning to get irritated by the lack of progress and the whining about the work and the inability to get the paint matched correctly so I knew it was time to take the ball into my own hands. I made a decision to end the paint match issue by calling the paint supply house myself.

Well I got a match on the first try! Here is the kicker, Mike at Bob's Paint Land in Vancouver Washington told me that he could mix it but he only had the formula for one brand of paint. So getting this match on the first shot really had me pissed that the body shop never got a sample of this paint as a starting point, this is when I realized I was dealing with another paint and body shop that was using short stir sticks and I decided to make the move to break my project out of this paint shop prison.

I could go on-and-on about the disappointments that led to a paint shop prison scenario; but I was lucky... Darrel's car is in Paint Shop Prison at L & H Kustoms, is not complete and is being held hostage as a legal negotiation ensues.

The bottom line is both shops failed to complete any portion of my project, both missed there deadlines by a large margin and they both get an "F" in work ethic, craftsmanship, attitude and customer satisfaction; what they lack in ethics they makes up for with his lack of integrity.

If your taking you project to a paint and body shop good luck, try to avoid paint shop prison; and if you've had a paint shop prison experience feel free to post your comments.

"Read the Top Ten Signs Your Project May End up in Paint Shop Prison"

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  1. Joey avatar

    Funny, I just got my Mustang back from "Paint Shop Prison". The Sentence: Nine Months. Yes, nine months. Eeesh. I hope you get yours back sooner.

    Joey — January 23, 2009 1:15 PM
  2. Roger avatar

    Sounds like these body shop guys are related to the guy who did my '67 Mustang. Fortunately I only asked for a, I want to get it on the road paint job. It only took 6 weeks(It was sunny alot so he was out riding when the sun was out.) Anyway I expected a daily driver paint job and he far exceed that expectation. He fixed some trouble spots that I didn't see also. Had I had the cash I probably would have let him keep it for 6 months and do a resto on the car.

    My wife has a '66 GT Mustang Convertible that I will take to him for a complete body resto next winter but these paint and body guys are easily distracted so I will expect at least a 6 month incarceration in bodyshop jail for her car.

    I am confident that he will do an excellent job and color match on Raven Black shouldn't be too difficult!

    Roger — October 28, 2009 5:46 AM
  3. Daniel avatar

    Everyone needs to find a shop that will enter a contract that states ON TIME or it don't cost a dime. Additionally, The you all need a shop that will take your car in and do the job and only get paid on delivery "No Deposit and No Payments" Your Car and Parts are more then enough collateral for a REAL SHOP TO DO THE JOB ON TIME! If a shop is under capitalized they are always taking the next guys money to work on the last guys car. There is only one Paint, Body, and Restoration Shop I know of that fills that bill, its 3G Super Rides LLC in Republic, MO Owned and operated by Sam Glidwell the web site is 3Gsuperrides.com or call the Shop Manager Alan at 417-209-4468. Now there is an exception to the rules I set out above and that is the Building of a high-dollar parts and labor car. In that instance A real Shop will require that the Customer deliver the full price quoted into an escrow account to be held until the car is completed under the terms of the contract the car is released to the owner and at the same time the funds are released to the Shop. That is how we do it here at assassin racing.(Why would we do that you may ask? answer: Since we are not a car lot and only build one off cars to the customers taste we want to make sure the money is there to pay for the job when it is finished. It’s not because we need the money to operate from) I use 3G Super Rides on all our Show Cars and nobody can beat the Black Paint jobs they turn out on the straightest body lines you will ever see. 3G Super Rides is also the only shop I know of that runs two shifts running from 8am to midnight m-f. So give them a call for your next project or that project the others never get finished. Oh one more thing, they turnaround most jobs in less the 60 days.

    Daniel — December 30, 2009 12:32 PM
  4. Adrian avatar

    I have a 67 Mustang here in Tasmania, Australia that i imported from California in August of 2008. I have sprayed a few cars with average results and also painted original paint jobs for Kawasaki Z900 owners with excellent success. I have decided to do my own paint job the Mustang haveing learnt how to fix small dents and have matched the Acapulco Blue via a code found on the Hotrodders Web site.

    I have bought a new iwata gun and purchased a dvd on spraying cars which has lots of process tips. I could not go down the "Body Shop" prison mentality road. Average Joes has been great with losts of useful tips.

    Adrian — February 10, 2010 8:26 PM

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